Tuesday, January 13, 2015

Karl Marx about Jews in Palestine & Jerusalem in 1854



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Karl Marx Confirms Jews Were A Majority In Jerusalem in 1854

Shlomo Avineri writes about Karl Marx and his days as a journalist.

While working for Horace Greeley's New York Daily Tribune back in 1854, Karl Marx wrote about the Ottoman Empire which at the time stretched deep into Eastern Europe. Marx wrote not only about the demographics, but also about the minorities who lived under Muslim rule.

Among the topics Marx wrote about was the situation in Jerusalem--and notes that in 1854 Jews were the majority population in Jerusalem:

He begins by stating that its "sedentary population numbers about 15,500 souls, of whom 4,000 are Mussulmans [Muslims] and 8,000 Jews." He goes on to say that "the Mussulmans, forming about a quarter of the whole, consisting of Turks, Arabs, and Moors, are, of course, the masters in every respect." After this dry recitation of facts, what follows is somewhat surprising. Marx goes on:

Nothing equals the misery and the suffering of the Jews of Jerusalem, inhabiting the most filthy quarter of the town, called hareth-el-yahoud . . . between the Zion and the Moriah . . . [They are] the constant objects of Mussulman oppression and intolerance, insulted by the Greeks, persecuted by the Latins [Catholics], and living only on the scanty alms transmitted by their European brethren.
Emet m'Tsiyon writes that Karl Marx apparently used the French diplomat and historian Cesar Famin as his source for the Jewish majority in Jerusalem:
Marx brought much of Famin's information into his article, sometimes quoting directly at length, sometimes paraphrasing. Famin wrote several books, mainly on history...

Here are Famin's numbers for Jerusalem's population in 1853. They are the same as those Marx reported in his article of April 1854. First I will give the English translation of Famin's words, and then his words in the original French:

The sedentary population of Jerusalem is about 15,500 souls
"La population sedentaire de Jerusalem est d'environ 15,500 ames:"
Jews . . . . 8,000 . . . Juifs
Muslims . .4,000 . . . Musulmans
Christians 3,490 . . . Chretiens
- - - - - - -------
. . . . . . . 15,490

This is the place for the name and other data about Famin's book:
L'Histoire de la rivalite et du protectorat des Eglises chretiennes en Orient (Paris: Firmin Didot freres, 1853). The breakdown of Jerusalem's population is on page 49.
Karl Marx and Cesar Famin have lots of company, confirming those numbers.

In The Jerusalem Population in the 19th Century -- Part 3, Emet m'Tsiyon quotes "Political History of Ottoman Jerusalem" by Abdul-Karim Rafeq in Ottoman Jerusalem: The Living City, 1517-1917:
The book contains a number of articles on various aspects of life in the city during the Ottoman period, and includes a survey of Jerusalem's political history in the period under survey, written by an Arab, Abdul-Karim Rafeq.

Here are population counts and estimates from the 19th century that he cites:

1) F Bovet was a French Protestant minister. He was in the Holy City in 1858 and was given demographic figures by the Prussian consul:

_7,000 _ Jews
_5,000 _ Muslims
_3,400 _ Christians
_____
15,400 total

2) Baron M de Vogüé, an inquisitive French traveler who spent considerable time in Jerusalem, gave these estimates/counts for the Holy City's population as of 1872:

_14,000 _ Jews
4-5,000 _ Muslims
7-8,000 _ Christians
__________
26,000 total

3) Nu`aman al-Qasatli was an Arab from Damascus ("a Damascene traveller and member of the Palestine Exploration Fund's expedition" to Israel). He gave estimates for Jerusalem's population as of 1874:

22,000 __ Jews
_6,000 __ Muslims
12,000 __ Christians
_______
40,000 total
In another post, Emet m'Tsiyon gives further sourcing for the Jewish majority in Jerusalem in 1854.

He quotes Yehoshua Ben Arieh, Jerusalem in the 19th Century: The Old City
This entry will present Ben-Arieh's estimates based on counts, censuses, and estimates made in the 19th century. The advantage in Ben-Arieh's work is that he presents estimates for various times throughout the century.

The Population of Jerusalem by Communities (1800-1870) (approximate figures)

Year __ Jews __ Muslims ___ Christians __ All Non-Jews __ Total
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
1800 __ 2,250 __ 4,000 ____ 2,750 ______ 6,750 _____ 9,000

1836 __ 3,250 __ 4,500 ____ 3,250 ______ 7,750 _____ 11,000

1840 __ 5,000 __ 4,650 ____ 3,350 ______ 8,000 _____ 13,000

1850 __ 6,000 __ 5,400 ____ 3,600 ______ 9,000 _____ 15,000

1860 __ 8,000 __ 6,000 ____ 4,000 ______ 10,000 _____ 18,000

1870 __ 11,000 __ 6,500 ____ 4,500 ______ 11,000 _____ 22,000
The Jewish connection to Jerusalem, historically, religiously, politically--and geographically--is clear.

Palestinian Arabs may sit down with Israel and negotiate about Jerusalem, but in no way are they entitled to any part of Jerusalem on a silver platter.

Friday, January 9, 2015

Monday, October 6, 2014

Captain Stebel


“Battery of Captain Stebel’ by  Yury Melkonov.  Юрий Мелконов Батарея капитана Стебля.


Captain Alexander Stebel was the commander of the 315 180-mm 2-gun turret coastal battery on Sõrve , Saaremaa, fell to the germans in oct. 1941 perished in unknown circumstances somewhere in 1943. For more google 'капитан Стебель'  Anyway nuance that is nowhere noticed, der mensch war von unsere. 
  inside 315 battery bunker after the water was pumped out,   more in Sõrve Bird Observatory site, sept 2010            

Red POW-sailors in prison, Riga.


Книга памяти воинов-евреев павших в боях с нацизмом 1941-1945  Том 3.









scroll toward page 383 and find:

СТЕБЕЛЬ Александр Моисеевич,
? - 1941. Капитан, ком 315 арт б-на, БОБР. КБФ. Пропал без вести. /СЕИВВ/

Saturday, May 31, 2014

The failure of the Jewish intelligentsia


Rafael Castro

Published: 
06.01.14, 00:35 / Israel Opinion     

Earning sympathy for Zionism from intellectuals is a thankless task. Why are Noam Chomsky and Peter Beinart so critical of Israel, while their less academically-gifted brethren tend to sympathize with the Jewish state?  Could it be that elite universities in America imbue their most promising Jewish students with a leftist bias? Perhaps, but why does this situation repeat itself in Israel, where the intelligentsia also tends to support dovish positions?
 Could it be that dovish positions are smarter? This is a dubious claim to make in the light of how events in Palestine have played out during the last 20 years. Could it be that dovish positions are more ethical? Given the grief and bloodshed brought upon both Jews and Arabs by their realization, this is also questionable.
The enigma deepens, when we reflect on three Jewish demographic groups during the last two decades which had foresight in their geopolitical predictions. Sephardic Jews, Russian immigrants and the religious Jews of the Diaspora are constituencies which opposed the Oslo peace process and the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza.
 How could their skepticism have been so right, while the promises of the intelligentsia proved so delusional? Could it be that Israel is the sole country that denies knowledge its predictive powers?

 Academic credentials

In order to address this question it is necessary to redefine knowledge. Does earning PhDs in Middle Eastern Studies from elite universities guarantee acquisition of a genuine understanding of Arab countries or Islam? Does hobnobbing with Arab intellectuals or spending a semester in Amman or Cairo enable a Westerner to really understand Muslim culture?
Academic credentials are crucial in being considered an expert on the Middle East both in Israel and abroad. But could it be that in Israel the real experts on the Arab world often do not possess such credentials?
 I strongly believe that if Israel had taken the knowledge and experience of its elderly Sephardic population more seriously, Israel could have spared itself many tears. Any Sephardic Jew, who spent decades in Arab countries ranging from Morocco and Yemen to Lebanon and Iraq, understands Arab culture and Muslim values better than even sterling graduates of Oxford and Harvard.
 The same principle applies to vindicate the wisdom of Russian immigrants. Russian Jews nurtured on a Soviet propaganda machine that pontificated daily about international brotherhood while subjugating its citizens, knew how to distinguish substance from propaganda far better than the Israeli elites.
 It was not – as leftist Israelis claim – the Russians’ lack of experience with democracy, but precisely their love of freedom, which made them deeply suspicious of Arafat’s intentions early on in the Oslo game.
The support of Diaspora religious Jews for hawkish positions has also been attributed to ignorance and fanaticism. This is yet another mirage of the leftist intelligentsia. In the Diaspora, religious Jews tend to be more knowledgeable about Israel than secular Jews. They study longer periods in Israel, they usually have more family members living in Israel, and they travel more often to Israel. Their hawkish positions are thus the product of knowledge and interest, the complete opposite of prejudice and ignorance.
Perhaps bias needs to be sought elsewhere. Perhaps the cognitive dissonance is to be sought in those unable to grasp the unique circumstances of the land of Israel. In those who indiscriminately apply theoretical models when passing judgment; in those who think in terms of philosophical schemata and political conventions rather than grounding their judgment on enlightened commonsense and a trove of personal experiences.
 In the light of these realities, perhaps the time has come for even Jews to reassess the importance owed to academic credentials.
If this reassessment had taken place two decades ago, Israel’s tragic contemporary history could have been avoided. It was the failure to adequately value the expertise of those who had experienced life with the adversary which accounts for the frightful failures of judgment manifested by the Jewish intelligentsia with regards to Israel and the Arab world.

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